Thread: new study shows aids in america is socio economic - not racial check it

FLATOW: You presented new research at the meeting that shows that many low-income, urban areas have HIV epidemics. We don't think of having HIV epidemics in this country.

Dr. FENTON: That's correct. You know, when we think of the national prevalence of HIV in the United States, that's approximately 0.4 or 0.5 percent, still higher than some other Western, industrialized countries, but nowhere near some of the prevalences that we hear about from sub-Saharan Africa or parts of Southeast Asia.

But what this first-of-a-kind CDC study showed was that in 23 cities across the United States, when we looked at high poverty areas, we found that the prevalence of HIV was in excess of one percent. In fact, the prevalence was 2.1 percent in these 23 cities, much higher than what we usually term a generalized epidemic, which is one percent.

FLATOW: Your study just looked at heterosexual infection rates. Why was that?

Dr. FENTON: Because one of the things we wanted to do was to exclude from the analysis other high-risk populations which have historically high prevalence of disease. For example, men who have sex with men and injecting drug users.

So what the study really shows is even when you exclude those high-risk populations from these high-prevalence poverty areas, we're still seeing high prevalences of HIV. And that means that the level of HIV in these jurisdictions are enough, is enough to sustain onward transmission of HIV in the poorest parts of the United States.

And this is the first time we've done such a large and comprehensive study covering the entire U.S. to really demonstrate the impact of poverty, race and HIV risk.

FLATOW: Did the risks cross all ethnic and racial lines, it just depends on the poverty level?

Dr. FENTON: Well, this is another fantastic finding in this study, which was even when you adjusted for poverty in these areas or low socioeconomic status, the relationship between race and HIV risk disappeared.

For example, the prevalence among blacks in these high-poverty areas was 2.1 percent. In Hispanics, it was also 2.1 percent, and in whites, it was 1.7 percent.

Now, these prevalences are unacceptable, but what it does say is that in these poor areas, the strongest determinant of HIV risk is not the individual's racial or ethnic background, but it's the low socioeconomic status which is driving other risk factors for HIV.

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For example, the prevalence among blacks in these high-poverty areas was 2.1 percent. In Hispanics, it was also 2.1 percent, and in whites, it was 1.7 percent.

Now, these prevalences are unacceptable, but what it does say is that in these poor areas, the strongest determinant of HIV risk is not the individual's racial or ethnic background, but it's the low socioeconomic status which is driving other risk factors for HIV.

I love this. People get AIDS more opften because they're poor. It can't be due to their own ignorance. It can't be because they use drugs and have unprotected sex. Nope- it's because they're poor. They should conduct a study to research the rate of ignorance among poor people. Hint: if they weren't stupid they wouldn't be poor.

Amish whites are also SUper Poor by our standards since they don't have runnign water or cell phones. I guess that must mean they also have high rate of Aids and high crime levels?

Originally Posted by OnTheRight

I love this. People get AIDS more opften because they're poor. It can't be due to their own ignorance. It can't be because they use drugs and have unprotected sex. Nope- it's because they're poor. They should conduct a study to research the rate of ignorance among poor people. Hint: if they weren't stupid they wouldn't be poor.

if that's true explain this:

"College Degree Not a Magic Ticket Out of Poverty

Jun 10, 2010

A recent study by the Institute for Higher Education Policy found that many young adults with a postsecondary degree are still living in poverty. The report examines the population of low-income American young adults, hoping to shed light on how higher education can improve economic outcomes for students in poverty."

College Degree Not a Magic Ticket Out of Poverty

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Originally Posted by Budguy68

Amish whites are also SUper Poor by our standards since they don't have runnign water or cell phones. I guess that must mean they also have high rate of Aids and high crime levels?

amish stay poor out of their cultural traditions. it is a conscious choice. they live a completely strict lifestyle carried down through generations in which they separate themselves from the "american way of life" on purpose. they are not ordinary americans who are poor. it's a ridiculous comparison. they choose to live as close to the way they did in the 1600's century as possible the poor in this study were "urban poor." this does immediately excludes the amish (ror!!!!!!)


please do research befor you make follish statements. here a bone:

"III. Economy


The Amish (all groups), since arriving in Pennsylvania, have largely remained an agricultural society. In fact, their skills in farming are exemplary. It varies whether the Amish work in dairy, cash crops, or other agricultural fields. Amish farms tend to resemble most family farms. They are small and self-sufficient, made to meet the needs of the family. In fact, most Amish are banned from having large operations, thus keeping a balance of power in the Amish community and reducing individualism and pride... Many Americans have heard the rumor that the Amish keep large stashes of money and are, in fact, wealthy. This is not only false but it has led to many robberies of the Amish and bitterness from those who do not believe the Amish pay taxes... Thus, it is important when considering the Amish, to not apply our cultural and economic values to them."

amish-cultural-dynamics.html

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thanks guy.

Originally Posted by grape ape

if that's true explain this:

"College Degree Not a Magic Ticket Out of Poverty

Jun 10, 2010

A recent study by the Institute for Higher Education Policy found that many young adults with a postsecondary degree are still living in poverty. The report examines the population of low-income American young adults, hoping to shed light on how higher education can improve economic outcomes for students in poverty."

College Degree Not a Magic Ticket Out of Poverty

thanks...

That's simple, simple. One of my neighbors has a masters degree and he can't even leave his house without losing his car keys. He never holds a job more than a year before he does enough stupid things to get fired. He's lucky that his wife is a nurse practitioner who has a six figure income. The ability to read a book and retain the information long enough to regurgitate it onto an exam does not mean that someone has the skills and business savvy to be successful. You also have to look at some of the degree programs that some people choose. Liberal arts, english, or communications degrees hardly give someone what they need to make it in the business world.

Originally Posted by OnTheRight

That's simple, simple. One of my neighbors has a masters degree and he can't even leave his house without losing his car keys. He never holds a job more than a year before he does enough stupid things to get fired. He's lucky that his wife is a nurse practitioner who has a six figure income. The ability to read a book and retain the information long enough to regurgitate it onto an exam does not mean that someone has the skills and business savvy to be successful. You also have to look at some of the degree programs that some people choose. Liberal arts, english, or communications degrees hardly give someone what they need to make it in the business world.

if that's the case prove it. prove that those are the degrees that are the culprits here and those people who have the right degrees don't have the acumen. don't forget the study showed essentially identical numbers across racial lines.

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Originally Posted by grape ape

if that's the case prove it. prove that those are the degrees that are the culprits here and those people who have the right degrees don't have the acumen. don't forget the study showed essentially identical numbers across racial lines.

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Prove that my neighbor who has a master's degree is an idiot? Prove that liberal arts, english, or communications degrees aren't a ticket to success? Most people with common sense (IE not you) would understand that. This whole thread is just so typical of you and your kind. It's all about making excuses for your shortcomings in life.